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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptic zone

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for the 19th of october 2014 richard

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saunders here with you from

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maynard's sydney lair maynard that's

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right we're here from the random castle

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of maynardness on the sofa of solitude

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it's a bright green and it's a 1979 lime

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green couch in fact this this uh couch

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once had its own nightclub you know how

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sometimes there's a couch in a nightclub

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well this couch had its own nightclub i

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don't doubt it for a moment but i'm

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looking up on the wall behind you there

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in my night and there's that famous star

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trek picture of you that's right me and

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donna gabay and me playing the part of

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captain kirk she playing the part of

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ensign something or another

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what are you doing giving an order or

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something i'm giving her an order uh for

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steak and chips i think and and she just

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happened to have a slip dress it was

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very much the same as what the uh the

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ensigns on

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you're kidding that's not a uniform

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that's her actual dress all we did was

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stick a star trek symbol on it it looks

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exactly like the show doesn't it it's

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it's a great job i'm doing my best i'm

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channeling my best kirk there you are

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you are i think that pictures even ended

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up on your facebook yeah it certainly

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has or on the main art page and man we

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are having such a time you've been

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you've been kicking the goals here with

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this show lately people have been coming

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up to me on the street knocking me to

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the ground and saying maynard the show

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the skeptic zone is going nuts it is it

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is it's been going nuts for years but

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it's even more nuts at the moment now

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you're in sydney to do some more bunga

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bunga that's right we've got uh tim

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ferguson with bungabunga 8 is coming out

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next week i'm recording that with him

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that has been going really well we've

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been picking up oh my god look look i've

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got like 500 people on our facebook page

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already which i know there's not a lot

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of people in the big scheme of things

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but for a show that's only been going

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for a couple of episodes we're doing

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quite well and uh what we're finding is

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when tim travels around with the doug

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anthony all-stars the group that he's

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still with yeah he brings back great

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stories from our great land

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well he's the doug anthony all-stars are

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doing great work at the moment bunga

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bunga is a really uh good podcast you

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and tim ferguson comes about what once a

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week or yeah look it comes out whenever

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tim and i are in the same town and

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basically this week we've got i've got

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uh something from the archives i like to

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dip into the archives and you've seen

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them you've been to my my other abode

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where the archives are and i randomly

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put my hand in and found an interview

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with gene simmons from 1990 the gene

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from kiss and that's up on the maynards

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malaise uh

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podcast feed which you can get through

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itunes just put maynard's malays into

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itunes downcast or stitchy stitcher and

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have a listen to it and and how many

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platforms is it skeptic zone on

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too many i

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i i think you can even get uh the

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skeptic zone on mastercard i think

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if you hold the card really close to

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your ear you'll hear this show but

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people can find out about all your

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exploits on

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maynard.com they can indeed and if

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you're hearing a loud rumbling in the

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background that is my 1987 yugoslavian

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fridge in fact i'm pretty sure that the

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factory that that fridge was made in was

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bombed at some stage by the americans

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that bad but if the americans had to do

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it they had to do it i guess

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that's war for you war is hell on

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particularly bad but let's think about

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this week's show maynard before we run

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to your fridge let's see what's inside

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on this week's show in fact we've got a

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sort of a double barrelled maynard

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spooky action now you keep talking

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because i'm going to see because i

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really like to make this a bit quieter

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that's gone by pushing on the handle

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loose handle so it's a sort of a double

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dr brad mackay from embarrassing bodies

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down under at skeptics in the pub the

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other week lots of embarrassing bodies

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there look and i asked him a couple of

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embarrassing questions did you keep the

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go ah that's a pretty well that was too

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embarrassing well if you bump into me

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personally i will tell you what that

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first question was and what the first

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it's maynard back at the paranormal

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convention the the normal and spiritual

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expo now we played some interviews last

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week to give people a taste of what uh

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believers think a bit more of that

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coming your way this week

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that's right and i had a great time

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talking everyone there at the cushula

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powerhouse and thank everyone for having

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a good chat with me and one of the

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questions that uh i don't know if it

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the paranormal in the infrared range

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just outside of human vision and i asked

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ultraviolet range now i know lots of

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there was any ghost action in the

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ultraviolet and no one gave me a good

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ultraviolet so if anyone knows let me

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this handle well done maynard

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so that's all coming up a bit later on

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the show with maynard's spooky action we

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uh uh commenting on or reading a report

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which have got the big heave-ho in new

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zealand and didn't you just this very

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second at a very local chemist that

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noted skeptic what did you say what was

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it for come on we were at the cameras

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getting something and i looked i was

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had something in it but you had to point

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not a homie that's not a remedy that's

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morphine there again

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sorry about that maynard but i had to

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embarrass them somehow for selling that

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that's that's i i i you said i did well

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uh big news about the upcoming

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convention the australian skeptics

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national convention there's a huge night

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of fun and entertainment being arranged

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more news

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that's here at my place isn't it after

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that that's the oh that's that's the

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unofficial one no this is where we're

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coming back to after that yeah that's

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no away looking forward to that uh yes

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so big news about the australian

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skeptics national convention just this

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week big news uh to be released now

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before we get stuck into this week's

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show maynard i think if if people want

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find the hidden easter egg hidden well

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no easter eggs are hidden that's the

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whole idea there was an easter egg on

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maynard um hang on was it something at

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the end of the episode

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i did hear something strange but i just

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assumed i was tripping again well so you

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say there was absolutely well there you

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go it was an easter egg on the end of

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last week's episode for those people who

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thinking there was a problem but

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and who knows when there may be some

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more information and what was that

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you people have to listen to last week's

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show and discover it for themselves

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and why they're doing that and why

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you're listening to this week's show

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there's people who aren't listening to

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last week so why don't you and i go back

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into your kitchen now open up your

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yugoslavian fridge and what might we

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discover i don't know we might discover

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some music

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from chariots of the gods

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see i always get eric von danica into

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oh no it is too all right well where you

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got it i scared richard you mentioned

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eric von daniken you did i don't want to

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go to the fridge anymore or evd as it's

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known

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and he gets a bit scary why we're doing

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oh heavens i hope you enjoyed the skip

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exam no look i was so glad i wasn't

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what we want is some more

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evidence please

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hello this is joe alabaster

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as reported on

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by author scott

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kudos to the new zealand-based society

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for science-based healthcare for taking

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a pharmacy sale of a homeopathic remedy

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to the advertising standards authority

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the advertising standards authority asa

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that it really works for homeopathic jet

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lag prevention were unsubstantiated and

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high standard of social responsibility

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to uphold the complaint

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no jet lag is sold across new zealand

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there's no credible evidence that it

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while the choice of pharmacy to name in

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the complaint was arbitrary the pharmacy

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has agreed to remove the product from

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sale i've discussed at length in a

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previous post how the sale of homeopathy

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and pharmacies is fundamentally

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unethical

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the pharmacy council of new zealand

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code of ethics quote

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medicine complementary therapy herbal

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remedy or other health care product

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quality or safety and when there is

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a pharmacy any product or service which

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may be detrimental to the good standing

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of the profession or bring the

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profession into disrepute end quote

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selling homeopathy which is sugar pills

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without medicinal ingredients is

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fundamentally at odds with the

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professional obligations of pharmacists

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homeopathy has no place on a pharmacies

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shelves

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it's unfortunate that it's taking

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complaints and even class action

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lawsuits to get action when regulators

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and the pharmacy profession itself

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refuses to even acknowledge the facts

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about this elaborate placebo system

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as a pharmacist i say thank you to the

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society for science-based healthcare

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as mentioned at the top of the show more

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exciting news about the australian

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skeptics national convention the 28th to

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the 30th of november this year

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and to quote the website

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latest convention announcements sgu

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extravaganza welcome social event and

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dinner entertainment

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we're pleased to announce three new

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exciting events for the 2014 national

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convention

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george rubb and the sgu crew will be

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putting on a special show at 7 p.m on

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friday the 28th of november the day

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before the convention proper gets

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underway

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this will take place at the chatswood

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club all tickets cost 25

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geo will host the sgu skeptical

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extravaganza and quiz show

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an evening of surprising fun music a

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quiz show audience interaction and much

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more this is a must-see event

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note that this is a separate event from

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the main convention with all profits

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going to sgu bookings are essential and

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will be suitable for all ages

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welcome event on the same night and

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location beginning at 6pm we will be

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holding a free welcome social event

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where you'll be able to mingle with

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speakers and other attendees here you

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will get the chance to talk to your

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heroes and skeptical colleagues in a

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relaxed atmosphere of good cheer and

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conversation

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geo and the sgu crew will be present at

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this event before and after their

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extravaganza all ages are allowed in the

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bistro area but you must be over 18 to

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be near the bar or gaming machines

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dinner entertainment we've organized

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some exciting entertainment to accompany

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the convention dinner on saturday

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november 29th

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while the dinner itself will be a great

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event featuring a three-course meal and

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drinks the entertainment on offer will

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round out a great evening nicholas j

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johnson the honest con man is an

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award-winning author magician comedian

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and

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con man

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he knows his scams and after decades of

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rubbing shoulders with fraudsters and

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liars he will show the dinner audience

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how to become a human lie detector and

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why they shouldn't trust him at the atm

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and the best way to cheat at the casino

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later in the evening the sgu will hold

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their traditional auction oh i love

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doing those auctions folks they're such

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great fun of goodies from the rogues

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treasure trove

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bookings are essential

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www.skeptics.com.edu you can find out

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all about the convention book your

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tickets

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welcome to a week in science from rios

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bringing you the science you need to

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know we spend around one third of our

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lives asleep but most people don't give

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it much thought

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so why do we need our sleep and just

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what happens while we're in the world of

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nod

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huh

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sleep is essential for resting the mind

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and body and is controlled by our

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internal body clock

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located in our hypothalamus our body

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clock is established during the first

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months of life

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and controls the timing of our nightly

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sleeps through the release of the

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hormone melatonin while everyone's clock

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runs on roughly a 24 24-hour cycle

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melatonin release can peak anywhere

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between 9 p.m and 3 a.m depending on the

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individual and it's this variation which

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explains why some people are naturally

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night owls and others are early risers

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once asleep our brain cycles through

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different levels of consciousness this

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sleep pattern is uniform in most people

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and involves a series of transitions

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between deep sleep and rem or rapid eye

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movement sleep rem sleep is the part of

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the sleep cycle during which we dream

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and is thought to be important for both

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memory storage and recharging your brain

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most people have four or five dreams a

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night even though we usually don't

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remember them and finally the optimum

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sleep time is seven to nine hours a

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night for adults research has shown that

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under or over sleeping will not only

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increase your risk of a chronic health

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condition but will also significantly

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reduce your life expectancy and now four

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fast facts about sleep

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during rem sleep our bodies are

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paralyzed to stop us moving about people

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who don't get enough sleep are more

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likely to overeat due to lower levels of

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the appetite regulating hormone leptin

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the record for the longest period

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without sleep is 18 days 21 hours 40

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minutes

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the winner reported hallucinations

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paranoia and blurred vision

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and finally yes it is possible to sleep

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with your eyes open

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that's it for this week in science for

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more information on sleep go to the ros

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website

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riaus.org dota u

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follow us on twitter at rios and like us

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i'm steve kern and we'll catch you next

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hey this is jay novella from the

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www.skeptics.com.au or just google

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now here's an update from our good

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friend daniel loxton in canada you might

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remember we had an interview with daniel

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loxton on the skeptic zone episode

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number 282

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way back on the 16th of march this year

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when we chatted to daniel about his new

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book pleaseus or peril

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well daniel's written many other books

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of course about uh prehistoric

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adventures and i'm delighted to say that

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one of his books pterosaur trouble

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has won an award daniel has won

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one of the awards in the victorian book

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prizes in canada fantastic well done

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daniel loxton

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and the press release says daniel

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loxton's pterosaur trouble

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is book two in the tales of pre-historic

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life series it follows a terror horror

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majestic flying reptile as he encounters

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a pack of tiny but vicious dinosaurs a

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unique blend of digital illustrations

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and landscape photography

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brings the ensuing battle to life

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congratulations

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daniel loxton who is uh the editor of

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junior skeptic magazine

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and if you're interested in buying

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pterosaur trouble a wonderful book why

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not visit uh the skeptic's own website

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www.skepticzone.tv

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and look for the show notes for this

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episode or just google daniel loxton

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pterosaur trouble

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his latest book please you saw peril i

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happen to know

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well a copy of that ended up being a

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birthday present for a certain oscar

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hey kenny

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oh hi tom nice to meet this park yeah

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yes great weather oh look a unicorn

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unicorn there are no such things as

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unicorns silly yes there is no there

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isn't hey guys what are you arguing

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about tom thinks unicorns are real they

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so are let's look us up in the skeptics

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dictionary the what

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how can we do this in this park there is

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no computer here you guys probably don't

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know about the skeptics dictionary app

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available now for iphone ipad and ipod

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touch in the app store

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wow cool the app lets you access all of

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the great skeptics dictionary articles

554
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:49,919
when you're on the go here let me look

555
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:53,039
up unicorns oh cool kenny prepare to be

556
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:55,840
proven wrong it says here the unicorn is

557
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:58,480
a creature from fables aha

558
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:59,679
actually

559
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:01,200
i see now that someone just dumped their

560
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:03,520
ice cream cone on that horse's head

561
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:21,029
and now it's time for your horrible

562
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:22,080
scope

563
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:23,840
by our astrologer

564
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:27,760
dr duath ecaf

565
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:28,880
aries

566
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:32,640
19th of april to the 14th of may

567
00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:34,960
too much negative energy will drain you

568
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:37,360
this week be sure to balance yourself

569
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:39,440
with positive energy stored in a

570
00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:42,080
rechargeable reiki battery

571
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,159
once your reiki battery is flat you can

572
00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:46,559
charge it up again by waving your hands

573
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:49,840
near it and closing your eyes yes folks

574
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:52,080
reiki batteries will save you a fortune

575
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,960
in reiki practitioner fees and works

576
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:56,080
just as well

577
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:58,480
you need never go to your reiki master

578
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:00,400
again

579
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:01,520
taurus

580
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,360
15th of may to the 21st of june

581
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:07,440
watch what you eat this month and eat

582
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:09,360
what you watch especially if you're

583
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:10,880
looking at a chicken

584
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:13,120
i wonder if chickens care about

585
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:14,799
astrology

586
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:17,440
why did the chicken cross the road

587
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:20,080
not even the stars know that one

588
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:24,080
remember you are what you eat

589
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:25,280
gemini

590
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,799
22nd of june to the 20th of july

591
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,799
it is wisely written that you can fool

592
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:32,159
some of the people

593
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:33,679
some of the time

594
00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:35,679
yes i have that on a frame of the wall

595
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:38,159
of my boat house just down the hill from

596
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:40,720
my new age energy healing and spiritual

597
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:42,320
awareness retreat

598
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:47,029
cancer

599
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:50,640
21st of july to the 10th of august

600
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:53,039
did you know that stars have star signs

601
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:53,840
too

602
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:56,080
and that our star the sun

603
00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,039
is one of the stars in at least 374

604
00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:01,440
other star signs as viewed from other

605
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,400
planets

606
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:04,480
yes it gets very complicated and means

607
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:07,120
we all live in many different signs

608
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:10,159
no wonder people are so confused

609
00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:11,120
leo

610
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:14,799
11th of august to the 16th of september

611
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:17,360
always consult the stars

612
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,000
before dyeing your hair

613
00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:22,400
for you the heavens recommend you colour

614
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:25,520
your hair jet black with a sprinkling of

615
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:27,440
some little sparkly bits

616
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:29,200
you should also match this with a jet

617
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:30,640
black shirt

618
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:33,520
with a sprinkle of little sparkly bits

619
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,000
and shoes as well

620
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,240
i think the stars seem to lack a little

621
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:40,320
imagination

622
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:43,600
virgo 17th of september to the 31st of

623
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:44,640
august

624
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:48,000
when life gives you lemons make lemonade

625
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,760
you'll still be in a mess but at least

626
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:51,360
you won't be thirsty

627
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,679
unless the lemons are off

628
00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:56,159
sort of makes sense really i mean

629
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:58,720
if you're having a bad time why would

630
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:01,679
life give you good lemonades sorry looks

631
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:04,799
like you're really out of luck

632
00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:07,919
libra 1st of november to the 23rd of

633
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:09,679
november

634
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:11,840
this month it'll come as a relief to you

635
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:14,480
to discover the jellyfish are not made

636
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:15,760
out of jelly

637
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,919
fish fingers are not made out of fishes

638
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,600
fingers

639
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:21,679
rock lobsters are not made from rocks

640
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,720
and jackrabbits are not called jack

641
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:26,880
unless some

642
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,240
scorpio 24th of november to the 30th of

643
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,320
november

644
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,240
did you know that you were born under

645
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:36,400
the wrong star sign

646
00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:39,760
it's very rare but it does happen

647
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:41,840
i'm pleased to say i can help you for

648
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,110
i can arrange with the universe to

649
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:51,840
change your sign to leo

650
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:54,000
or you can even make up your own for an

651
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:57,200
extra 29.99

652
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,000
off the eucas first of december to the

653
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:02,400
18th of december

654
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:04,480
most people you meet were born under the

655
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:05,520
sign of

656
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,720
a hospital

657
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:08,880
it's a good sign to be born under or

658
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,400
even near if you were born on the cusp

659
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,919
now there's a word you don't hear much

660
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,360
anymore

661
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,360
if you were born on the cusp just be

662
00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:19,520
glad you didn't fall off and remember to

663
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:22,960
thank your mother for her good balance

664
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,559
sagittarius 19th of december to the 19th

665
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:28,240
of january

666
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:29,919
it's time for you to put your life in

667
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:33,039
order and the best order i know for life

668
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:36,080
is birth life death

669
00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:37,840
you'll be pleased to know that this is

670
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:39,679
your first life and you weren't

671
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:41,360
reincarnated

672
00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:45,360
the bad news is neither was anybody else

673
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:48,799
capricorn 20th of january to the 16th of

674
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:51,039
february

675
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:53,279
i sense you like to cook up a storm in

676
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:54,559
the kitchen

677
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:56,480
which is a pity as most people would

678
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:58,320
prefer to eat food

679
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:00,559
but let's face it there are those who

680
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:02,960
share your star sign who shouldn't go

681
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:05,760
anywhere near a kitchen or a storm for

682
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:07,919
that matter

683
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:10,720
aquarius 17th of february

684
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:12,960
to the 11th of march

685
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:15,360
this is a good month to try your luck

686
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:16,799
with bad luck

687
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:19,279
and it's really easy to do just buy a

688
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:21,679
ticket in the lotto and you're almost

689
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:24,159
certainly not going to win

690
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,840
once again the stars come through with

691
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:27,840
their amazing insights

692
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:30,559
if however you are very unlucky with bad

693
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:32,880
luck and luck out please come and visit

694
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:34,880
me at my new age energy healing and

695
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:36,960
spiritual awareness retreat

696
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,960
and i'm sure i can bring your bad luck

697
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:40,640
back

698
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,039
pisces 12th of march

699
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,440
to the 18th of april

700
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:47,360
if you feel the urge to look into your

701
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,640
family tree

702
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:50,559
don't be surprised if you find some wood

703
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:51,760
worms

704
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:54,320
keep one eye on the present one eye on

705
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:55,520
the future

706
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:58,240
and one eye on the other two eyes yes

707
00:28:02,230 --> 00:27:59,520
okay yes

708
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:02,240
i think the stars are trying to be funny

709
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:05,120
but is the joke on me or you

710
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:08,640
your lucky numbers are double 07 86 and

711
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,630
is an award-winning weekly science show

712
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,880
in french hosted by a bunch of crazy

713
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:34,399
enthusiasts

714
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:36,880
we are convinced that the greatest ideas

715
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,200
in science are quite easy to grasp as

716
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:41,279
long as they are presented with passion

717
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:43,840
using a vocabulary common to all curious

718
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:46,320
minds whatever their academic background

719
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,600
if any

720
00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:49,679
you don't understand french yet why it's

721
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:50,960
never too late

722
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:52,640
all our stories have a written

723
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,399
transcript on the website and people

724
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:56,559
from all around the world are using our

725
00:29:39,269 --> 00:28:59,200
content to learn malia's language

726
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:43,430
here's maynard's spooky action

727
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:49,269
well we're here at the back of skeptics

728
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,640
in the pub and it's amazing who you bump

729
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,720
into who we got here out the back um hi

730
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,480
my name is dr brad mackay from

731
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:56,720
embarrassing bodies down under and i

732
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:58,320
mean i believe the motto of your show is

733
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:59,840
we like to pry

734
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:01,679
i think it's there's no shame we're all

735
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:04,159
the same which is very similar yeah now

736
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,760
what did you make of our m drive talk

737
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:07,520
we're talking about space drive and

738
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:09,360
possible space drives

739
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:12,080
it's not my area of expertise i'm much

740
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:14,240
better with human anatomy but uh yeah

741
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:16,480
with m drives i'm learning a little bit

742
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,679
more and my eyes sort of glows glaze

743
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:21,600
over with a few of the

744
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:24,000
the equations are up on the screen okay

745
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:25,760
i can certainly understand that but you

746
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:28,399
know you obviously had to do a degree to

747
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:31,039
get to where you are and some of the uh

748
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:32,640
rules of pharmacology would be just as

749
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:34,799
confusing as those physics

750
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:37,360
very true very true there's a theory of

751
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:39,120
relativity i think we were discussing

752
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:41,600
there at some stage but uh yeah a little

753
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,840
bit of a different focus but i do want

754
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:45,360
the world to be more like the minority

755
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:46,799
report where all the cars are sort of

756
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:48,799
floating on the highway oh i just want

757
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,159
to be able to wave your hand in front of

758
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:51,919
the devices and move the page over too

759
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:54,159
don't you exactly exactly i think we've

760
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:56,080
already got that oh yeah you're right

761
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:57,679
you're sorry we are living in the future

762
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:59,360
i tend to forget that and the other

763
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:00,799
thing is what's your specialty what's

764
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:02,880
your medical specialty do you have one

765
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,799
i've moved up from melbourne to sydney

766
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:07,039
just recently so i've i'm starting at a

767
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:09,360
work at a clinic in darlinghurst doing

768
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:11,360
sexual health and i'm doing further

769
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:14,240
study and hiv medicine as well now in

770
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:16,320
that area there can be a lot of woo you

771
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:18,080
get patients coming in that will believe

772
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:20,320
a certain thing or a certain action or a

773
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:22,399
certain behavior will somehow protect

774
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:24,320
them when that is not the case at all so

775
00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:26,000
how do you deal with woo in your

776
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:27,679
workplace like that

777
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:30,640
with hiv medicine yes and sexual health

778
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:31,679
medicine because some people will

779
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,880
believe that some things will protect

780
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:34,720
them when sometimes they won't well i

781
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,720
try to have very educated patients that

782
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:38,080
don't believe in woo

783
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:39,760
you'd like them to leave the office with

784
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,120
the information even if it's against

785
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:42,960
what they think

786
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:45,120
exactly exactly so i don't have too many

787
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,149
like that or do you think available

788
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:02,320
that's a simple thing that doesn't look

789
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:04,559
really harmful i've had a few patients

790
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,559
this week talking about their back pain

791
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,399
or neck pain and seeing a chiropractor

792
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,399
or having acupuncture so i've spent a

793
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:12,000
lot of time talking about that and

794
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,360
saying well acupuncture is probably

795
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:15,679
going to be making your endorphins go up

796
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:18,080
and how how long did that work for when

797
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:20,960
you had acupuncture oh about 24-48 hours

798
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,720
and then you're back in pain again yeah

799
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:24,240
that's probably because you had a

800
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:25,600
natural morphine that your body was

801
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:27,440
creating so then with chiropractic

802
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:29,039
treatment yeah again you're having your

803
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,640
neck cracked and then after a couple of

804
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:32,799
days you're back to the same situation

805
00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:34,480
so i spent a lot of my time sort of

806
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:36,159
focusing people on getting treatment

807
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,960
with physiotherapists and and trying to

808
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,559
look at their muscles and try to do a

809
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:42,399
more of a rehabilitation and exercise

810
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:44,559
program rather than relying on the quick

811
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:45,440
fix

812
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:46,720
i've got to say i have a tremendous

813
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:48,480
amount of respect for professionals like

814
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,799
yourself and gps that don't get as much

815
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:52,480
credit along with nurses as they should

816
00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:54,799
for providing everyday care and and

817
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:55,840
showing people where they can get

818
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:57,360
information i mean it seems to me

819
00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:58,799
there's a hierarchy like you know

820
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:00,799
neurosurgeons seem to be at the top and

821
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:02,320
then they've got cardiac surgeons under

822
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:04,080
that and dermatologists apparently about

823
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:06,080
it down the bottom for some unknown

824
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:07,919
reason which they can still save your

825
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:10,399
life and so doing what you do goes a bit

826
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:12,480
unsung in the general community with gps

827
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:14,320
and preventative health experts

828
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:15,600
i think a lot of people that are

829
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:18,000
specialists have a bit more of a halo

830
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,559
around their their heads sometimes

831
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:23,039
there's a bit of a change over time

832
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,880
since i've been in medicine to respect

833
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:26,559
general practitioners a little bit more

834
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:29,600
so i think being a specialist in family

835
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,000
medicine is sort of a little bit more

836
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:34,320
acknowledged over time so it's not just

837
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:37,120
being a gp but it's knowing a lot about

838
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:39,120
well a little bit about everything and

839
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,039
not a lot about one thing the thing that

840
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:44,000
would just do my head in um is you're in

841
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:45,440
the one office and you get people in

842
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,640
there and they're in there for 15

843
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:48,559
minutes half an hour at the longest

844
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:50,240
sometimes and everyone's totally

845
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:51,279
different they have lots of different

846
00:33:55,509 --> 00:33:53,519
things obviously working in sexual

847
00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:55,519
uh medicine that's you're going to get a

848
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,760
similarity in patience but a gp doesn't

849
00:34:01,830 --> 00:33:59,440
get that he can now he can go from

850
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:01,840
psychological to everything well that's

851
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:03,519
what i love about general practice and i

852
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,039
still do everything under the sun so

853
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:07,120
even working at a sexual health like

854
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:09,280
focused practice it's still everything

855
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:11,280
so i'll have from what's on people's

856
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:14,480
feet to stars in their eyes and

857
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:16,159
then depression anxiety as well mental

858
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:17,599
health's a big

859
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:19,760
focused topic of mine too i love talking

860
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:21,359
about depression and anxiety and i love

861
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:22,960
helping people with that i'll finish

862
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:25,280
with a controversial question what's

863
00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:27,119
your and it can be personal opinion it

864
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:28,639
doesn't have to be represent anything

865
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,200
that you do in the media about the uh

866
00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:33,280
about the the prep solution so that

867
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:35,200
people could take this this medication

868
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:37,839
which is very expensive and uh and it

869
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,200
will prevent them getting hiv

870
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:41,280
transmission what is your uh

871
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,879
stance on that

872
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:44,879
it's okay if you haven't got one

873
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,480
no i've got an opinion on that i think

874
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,639
everyone's got an opinion on that um pep

875
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:51,119
versus prep is a big thing so

876
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:52,960
post-exposure prophylaxis we've had for

877
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:55,119
a while so we certainly know that that

878
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,040
works and it's certainly recommended so

879
00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:59,040
if you're having unprotected sex with

880
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:01,760
somebody condom breaks whatever is going

881
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,240
on that's proven to work the prep

882
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:06,480
solution um they've been doing a lot of

883
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:07,920
studies the studies that have come out

884
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:11,200
have shown sort of like a 90 to 100 like

885
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:12,640
with some of the studies saying that

886
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:14,480
there's protection against hiv if people

887
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,040
are taking the drugs properly so there's

888
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:19,200
still a lot of debate about the expense

889
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:20,320
of it and i think they're trying to

890
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:22,320
bring down the medication price and i

891
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:23,680
think if they do that it'll be a little

892
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:26,320
bit more uh well received and the

893
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:28,240
australian government

894
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,760
at the moment as well it's sort of well

895
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:31,599
who takes it it's been recommended

896
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,000
mainly for gay men to take it because

897
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:36,400
they've got 16 times more likely to have

898
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:37,599
hiv compared to the rest of the

899
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,160
population um and yeah if you've got a

900
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:42,320
young active gay man who's

901
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:43,760
having unprotected sex and they're going

902
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,760
to do that whether they're on medication

903
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:47,359
or not it's better for them to be on it

904
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:49,040
yeah do you think there's any argument

905
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:51,440
in the fact that it people can now

906
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:53,040
abdicate their responsibilities to a

907
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,800
certain extent well they're talking

908
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:56,320
about it being like the birth control

909
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:58,400
pill for gay men and i don't think it

910
00:36:01,829 --> 00:36:00,800
has that effect i think that's a bit of

911
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:01,839
a

912
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:23,920
men who

913
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,079
go and have anonymous sex like who who

914
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:28,320
gets covered who what who does the

915
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:31,119
government pay for in that regard

916
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:32,400
yeah look there's going to be a lot more

917
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:34,160
talking on this issue and i think it's

918
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,359
very interesting particularly when

919
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:37,599
people think about uh allocation of a

920
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:39,520
scarce health budget what you do with it

921
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:41,200
it's a very hot button issue isn't it

922
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:43,680
definitely and it's a mixture of all

923
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,880
sorts of different things so we're

924
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:46,640
putting the science there we're putting

925
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:48,000
the finance there putting the government

926
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,000
protocols there and then also the stigma

927
00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:52,480
with hiv as well so it's an amazing

928
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:54,320
fascinated area and we'll hear a lot

929
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:56,079
more about in the next six to 12 months

930
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,760
it's just great that even that is being

931
00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:59,040
talked about in fact i think it should

932
00:37:01,990 --> 00:37:00,240
be talked about in the press more

933
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:02,000
because people like to shun away from it

934
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:03,440
because they think if you bring it up as

935
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:04,880
a talk back topic or something like that

936
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,320
you might alienate a certain part of the

937
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:08,320
audience but it's just about sexuality

938
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:10,160
and some people get you know you i mean

939
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:11,599
you say oh this is what i do for a job

940
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:13,119
people some people might go

941
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:13,839
you know

942
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:16,000
it's not about sexuality hiv doesn't

943
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:18,720
discriminate against any upper body

944
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,960
a lot of people do get hiv so it's

945
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:22,800
certainly not a gay issue and that's

946
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:24,880
certainly not a sexuality issue

947
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:27,520
but yeah it's just a hot topic

948
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:28,160
and

949
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,359
the main thing is that it's a big

950
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,440
epidemic in australia at the moment so

951
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:34,160
it's just on the increase so we're

952
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:36,320
really in a really difficult phase and

953
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,760
especially over the last sort of five to

954
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:39,520
ten years we've noticed a big increase

955
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:40,880
in the number of cases that are coming

956
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,680
through

957
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:43,200
and keep fighting the good fight out

958
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:44,880
there make sure people leave your office

959
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:47,359
knowing what's what will do cheers and i

960
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:50,079
hope i never turn up on your show

961
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:53,839
no not this year not this year no

962
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:56,079
and now travel back with maynard to the

963
00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,119
australian paranormal and spiritual expo

964
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:01,520
for more interviews with um

965
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,800
some very

966
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:05,119
interesting people

967
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:06,880
now of course uh one of the main people

968
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,240
you'd have to bump into you've got

969
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,920
you've got a big guy on the door who's

970
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:11,040
ready if there's some trouble what's

971
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:13,280
your name sir my name's john john now

972
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:14,800
you're big in the sci-fi world but

973
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:16,720
you're also here in the paranormal world

974
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:18,800
i'm brought here by my partner peter who

975
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:21,280
runs zappy we're along with nick

976
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:22,320
and um

977
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:23,520
any incidents i'm always looking for

978
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:25,040
some sort of controversy to get into the

979
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:26,640
show here has there been any incidents

980
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:27,599
today

981
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:32,400
okay i'll just have to ask you that

982
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:33,599
question and what sort of people are

983
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:36,400
coming here um it's mainly women but not

984
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:37,680
necessarily

985
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,839
mainly women and

986
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:41,280
a lot of the men i believe are the

987
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:43,680
partners of women that they look a bit

988
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,280
put upon as if they've been asked to

989
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:48,079
come here oh i think there's a few true

990
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:50,079
believers that have come along who are

991
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,160
the men um it's quite an interesting um

992
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,040
demographic actually uh most interesting

993
00:39:01,990 --> 00:38:59,119
question you've been asked today

994
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:03,750
thanks thank you

995
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:05,200
now of course every event needs a host

996
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:06,960
and we've got a guy up here on the stage

997
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,880
who's been chatting to our various ghost

998
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:10,560
hunters and psychics what's your name

999
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:13,200
sir alex chaos and of course you put the

1000
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:14,720
uh the maitland jail one together that

1001
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:16,000
we went to earlier in the year now what

1002
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:18,320
was that one that was paracon australia

1003
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:20,000
and you're doing it again in may in

1004
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,079
katoomba yes we've got the carrington

1005
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:24,240
hotel in kitumba so we're all set for 2

1006
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:28,000
15. look what strikes me is that you get

1007
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:29,440
the industry coming along you get the

1008
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,040
ghost hunting industry come along that

1009
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,119
mix with each other and talk as well as

1010
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:35,440
the general public and it's the psychics

1011
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:36,800
are kind of sidelined a little bit

1012
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:37,760
aren't they

1013
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:40,079
uh look the paranormal community is very

1014
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,440
diverse

1015
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:43,040
but you know the teams generally work

1016
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:44,480
and know each other so that's why they

1017
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:46,079
probably you know all seem like they get

1018
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:47,680
on a lot more but so what's your

1019
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,760
favorite here today oh that's a little

1020
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:51,440
hard to pick there's a lot of good ones

1021
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:53,839
i like that the ghost tours are out and

1022
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:55,440
representing themselves because you know

1023
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:58,000
goes to tourism is booming so good on

1024
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:59,760
them yeah and everyone seems to have had

1025
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,800
some sort of experience that they want

1026
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:02,160
to get explained i don't know if that's

1027
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,760
actually going to happen but they want

1028
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:05,200
to know some answers here don't they

1029
00:40:08,310 --> 00:40:06,400
that's right and you know what if they

1030
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:08,320
don't get the answers it's you know as

1031
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:09,920
lame as it is it's the journey that

1032
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,520
matters

1033
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:13,200
you know it's the pursuit of the answers

1034
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,400
that are just as fun i think you've been

1035
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:16,720
talking too many new age people you know

1036
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:17,760
so um

1037
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,960
what's going on over there where they've

1038
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,480
got the bell-shaped thing that's moving

1039
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:22,000
around someone's head is that an aura

1040
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,680
cleansing what's going on it's a glass

1041
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:25,359
belt yes i believe it like it's an it's

1042
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:27,520
an aura cleansing like with um i'm not

1043
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:29,200
sure what the actual bell's called but

1044
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:30,880
it's like sound vibration

1045
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:32,240
it looks like someone's moving a bars

1046
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:33,440
around their head

1047
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:35,359
look whatever helps you yeah well look

1048
00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:36,720
the people are looking pretty relaxed

1049
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:37,920
maybe because they got their eyes shut

1050
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:39,040
if they could see what it looked like

1051
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:40,560
maybe they wouldn't be so relaxed that's

1052
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:42,079
true that's true it could be look you

1053
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:43,680
have a good day any uh you know any

1054
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:46,000
incidents yet nothing yet good numbers

1055
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:47,200
through the door they're having a good

1056
00:40:50,310 --> 00:40:48,880
day

1057
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:50,320
look i've actually been invited behind

1058
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,599
the table so i'm actually getting a view

1059
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:53,040
of what it's like to be at one of these

1060
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:54,800
tables and there are a lot of people

1061
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,200
here steve you're the team leader of uh

1062
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:59,200
unexplained paranormal incident group

1063
00:41:02,470 --> 00:41:01,280
and where do you normally work at

1064
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:02,480
uh well we actually hold our

1065
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:04,079
investigations up around the uh the

1066
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,680
mountains area which is about victoria

1067
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,680
and also katoomba okay

1068
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,599
and do you think it's because of some

1069
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:11,520
ancient mystery that's going on there or

1070
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:12,800
it's something that's gone on since

1071
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,200
settlement

1072
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:17,280
it could be hard to actually identify

1073
00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:19,760
that the

1074
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:21,680
of us live in energy imprint

1075
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:24,480
through time okay um now whether

1076
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,920
somebody's actually drawn back to these

1077
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:27,359
locations for whatever reason we don't

1078
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:28,079
know

1079
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:30,400
and just through our investigation

1080
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:32,000
methods we're actually trying to unravel

1081
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:33,520
why certain energy levels remain in

1082
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:34,880
certain places and while they're

1083
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:36,000
actually um they're held there or

1084
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:37,440
whether they may be transient just

1085
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:39,280
moving through have you got any sort of

1086
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:41,200
rough rough hypothesis at this point or

1087
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,880
is it a bit too early

1088
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,800
it's uh quite early at the moment but we

1089
00:41:48,069 --> 00:41:46,800
actually do coming across the same

1090
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,079
energy levels of the time we're coming

1091
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:50,480
across some very childish empty spirits

1092
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,560
um also some very standoffish male

1093
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,960
spirits and also uh quite a few nasties

1094
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:56,160
in there as well

1095
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:58,480
so this indicates some sort of hierarchy

1096
00:42:02,309 --> 00:41:59,760
of spirits

1097
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:02,319
it could be um i've been investigating

1098
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:04,079
there for about 29 years

1099
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:06,640
and it's it's quite hard to put your

1100
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,720
thumb on any sort of theory based out

1101
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:10,000
there because theory bases change all

1102
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,760
the time that's true okay somebody will

1103
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:13,359
say you know that

1104
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,880
ghost exists and then the person next to

1105
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,040
me saying ghosts don't exist

1106
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:19,119
um whether that's the right term i

1107
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:21,839
mainly use energy levels myself okay and

1108
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:23,599
what's the

1109
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:25,119
wildest event you've experienced when

1110
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:27,200
you've been out in the field

1111
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,160
uh scratches which i have here okay so

1112
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,240
is that necessarily poltergeist activity

1113
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:33,920
or is that not necessarily that i

1114
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,119
thought physical stuff would have

1115
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,520
poltergeist it could be um the theory

1116
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,880
behind pole devices actually can be

1117
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:40,240
manifested by somebody within the

1118
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:42,240
premises themselves through holding

1119
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:43,520
negative energies they can actually

1120
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:44,560
build

1121
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:45,440
on that

1122
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:46,720
i'm a little bit of a nervous

1123
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:48,800
disposition myself i i tend to stay away

1124
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:50,240
from these kind of things because i just

1125
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:51,680
i get spooked by i can watch something

1126
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:53,200
on a tv and be spooked i'm a little bit

1127
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:55,040
too suggestible i think that's my

1128
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,880
problem i'd be i'd almost have a panic

1129
00:43:01,829 --> 00:42:58,720
attack going out with you guys i reckon

1130
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,839
well um a lot of it uh quite um very

1131
00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:03,839
very interesting how it all happens um

1132
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,119
we do capture a lot of voices come

1133
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:07,359
through our electronic capture devices

1134
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:08,960
oh yeah and what do you use to capture

1135
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,760
evps um well we actually use a recorder

1136
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,720
similar to what you're actually holding

1137
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:14,800
in your hand now okay um bi-directional

1138
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,119
only directional uh recorders we also

1139
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:19,520
run our spirit boxes also audios off our

1140
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,119
camera and everything as well and it's

1141
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:22,880
purely simple your ears there are times

1142
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:24,160
you can actually hear things by your

1143
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:25,440
ears

1144
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:27,280
quite simple and what's your website so

1145
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:28,240
people can have a look at what you've

1146
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:30,160
got up to okay it's the unexplained

1147
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:35,589
one thing we like talking about when we

1148
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:37,040
come to an expo like this is some of the

1149
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:38,240
people that have come along here and

1150
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:40,720
what have you been looking for today um

1151
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,800
i just came along to see what you know

1152
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:44,319
what anybody would say about any

1153
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:45,839
readings or anything like that that i

1154
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,480
had oh okay so did you get a tarot or

1155
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:50,880
did you get a medium what did you do um

1156
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:52,800
i had a little mini tarot reading with

1157
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,359
some ladies um just over behind me and

1158
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:57,119
yeah they're very good very spot-on very

1159
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:58,880
accurate oh good and how did you get

1160
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,880
what were you here for well same sort of

1161
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:02,160
thing just to have a look at everything

1162
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:03,839
i'm actually going to see a seminar with

1163
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:06,839
um mitchell combs so oh okay

1164
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,839
yeah is it rich or is it michael michael

1165
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:11,040
that's mitchell no it's mitchell

1166
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,720
mitchell yeah

1167
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:14,960
i should read my signs better i never

1168
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,359
just had a free um spiritual reading

1169
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,200
over there not very good okay and now

1170
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,119
either of you into crystals at all yes

1171
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:22,800
i'm very much into crystals oh okay

1172
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,000
there's only one i know about that's

1173
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:26,160
rose quartz what's your favorite oh i've

1174
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,000
got many favorites but i tend to always

1175
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,720
gravitate towards the amethyst oh okay

1176
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:31,920
and is that supposed to be a cleansing

1177
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:34,960
one or a good luck one or um amethyst is

1178
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:37,760
a very spiritual stone and it um it does

1179
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:39,760
a lot of spiritual protection

1180
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:42,319
and it's very relaxing and very calming

1181
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,480
so um you seem pretty chilled i gotta

1182
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:46,720
say and have you got a courts belief at

1183
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,520
all

1184
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:48,960
what sorry what are you into courts at

1185
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:52,079
all no i've got crystals but i haven't

1186
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:53,040
really

1187
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,480
explored

1188
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:56,480
oh yeah what's appropriate for me oh

1189
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:58,000
okay well look you both sound like

1190
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:59,440
having a fun day here and enjoy

1191
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,359
yourselves yeah thank you thank you for

1192
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:03,599
your time thank you that's great just

1193
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:04,960
right next to the skeptic's table we've

1194
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,400
got rob here and which ghost

1195
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,240
investigation group are you with i'm

1196
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:09,839
eastern states paranormal we're based in

1197
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:11,920
newcastle oh what another nova cast

1198
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:13,680
trend what's your favorite haunted and

1199
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:16,079
almost active spot of town oh i have to

1200
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:18,800
be in maitland jail it is pretty it is

1201
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,240
pretty ooky there what do you reckon

1202
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:22,400
about the civic theater

1203
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:23,839
um i'm actually going to the civic

1204
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,000
theatre with renata from newcastle ghost

1205
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:28,400
tours i think in next month i've never

1206
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:30,000
been there before so be good to have a

1207
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:32,240
hunt yeah it's good large open space

1208
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,160
well a large enclosed space yeah it's

1209
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:36,240
really nice so what what has been the

1210
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:37,440
most active thing you've seen with

1211
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,160
maitland jail for example um i've seen

1212
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,240
shadow figure walk from one end to the

1213
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:44,560
cell to another i thought it was a

1214
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:46,800
client of ours coming with us no one was

1215
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:48,800
in there at all okay yeah

1216
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:50,800
so do you still get a bit spooked out by

1217
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:52,400
some of the things that happen sometimes

1218
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:54,560
definitely definitely i do yeah

1219
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:57,040
cold sweat sometimes so what drives you

1220
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,480
to do it is it the adrenaline burn you

1221
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:00,880
get from that experience i think it's

1222
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:02,240
more to do

1223
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:04,240
to show people yeah there is an

1224
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:06,240
afterlife there are spirits out there

1225
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:07,440
kind of thing

1226
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:10,560
and sometimes yeah the rush does help

1227
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,680
yeah

1228
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:13,200
i've just been having discussion there

1229
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:14,960
it could be an afterlife it could be a

1230
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:16,640
trans-dimensional being or some sort of

1231
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,400
time slip as well there could be all

1232
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,920
sorts of reasons why you're seeing

1233
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:21,839
something that's anomalous it's kind of

1234
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:23,440
hard to nail down isn't it yeah

1235
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,640
definitely like

1236
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:26,640
with my itc research i'm doing with

1237
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:27,760
water

1238
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,599
i've had pictures that look like alien

1239
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:30,960
so could it be aliens trying to

1240
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:32,960
communicate with us who knows

1241
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:34,720
you've got some devices here now some of

1242
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:37,200
these are well known um like you've got

1243
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:38,720
the ghost box there is that what it's

1244
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:41,760
called yes the new sb11 spirit box now

1245
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:43,280
how does that work again it

1246
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:44,960
gathers a number of frequencies all at

1247
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:46,960
once doesn't it it's uh scans through

1248
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:49,920
the radio radio waves so this one has

1249
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:51,599
particular two

1250
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:53,760
spirit boxes built into the one so we

1251
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:57,359
can go am and fm or am am fm fm vice

1252
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:58,319
versa

1253
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:01,280
we can go forward sweep reverse sweep

1254
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,520
uh how fast we can go 50 milliseconds to

1255
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:05,760
300 milliseconds and as someone who's

1256
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,760
used one a few times what have you had

1257
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:09,359
the most success with

1258
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:10,400
um

1259
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,040
i usually have set mine at reverse fm at

1260
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:15,359
250 milliseconds

1261
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:16,880
and i believe that we can hear the

1262
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,040
voices come across a lot smoother

1263
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,280
instead of like chipmunks and how do you

1264
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:23,119
um and you have to listen back in real

1265
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:24,319
time and you've got to slow it down how

1266
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,680
do you work it out well sometimes you

1267
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,359
can hear the voices communicate with you

1268
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:29,280
back like they'll say hi rob i've had

1269
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:31,680
that a lot help me rob can you help me

1270
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:32,800
kind of thing

1271
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:34,880
sometimes i'll say something too soft

1272
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,560
then we'll have to take it home and look

1273
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,480
on the computers with audio

1274
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:40,800
programs i've spoken to mediums and

1275
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:43,280
psychics before and they're very adamant

1276
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:45,040
that there's some sort of a hierarchy in

1277
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,480
the after world like you know there's

1278
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:48,640
lower spirits and higher spirits and do

1279
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:52,480
you hold any thought in that or not um i

1280
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:54,480
think because my mom always says to me

1281
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,680
she talks to a higher spirit

1282
00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:59,440
she says not god or anything like that

1283
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:01,200
it's just something above

1284
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:03,680
us that she communicates with so i don't

1285
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:06,560
know okay yeah yeah because

1286
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:07,680
you got to be careful of the lower

1287
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:09,280
spirits and i'm wondering how you could

1288
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:10,960
possibly tell sometimes

1289
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,800
i wouldn't know like i've never come

1290
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:14,240
across anything evil

1291
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:16,319
never haven't come across demonic

1292
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,440
entities

1293
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:19,680
i just think if you're a bugger in life

1294
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:20,960
you're going to be a bugger in death and

1295
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:23,599
you're going to cause fear in people so

1296
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:25,200
i i guess yeah just because you've died

1297
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:27,119
doesn't make you a nicer person no it

1298
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:28,960
doesn't it doesn't know at all

1299
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:31,040
oh and what if you're hoping to uh

1300
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:33,119
a bit of a camaraderie here with all the

1301
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:34,000
ghost

1302
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:35,680
finders today isn't it i thought it's

1303
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:37,280
awesome like it's good to see so many

1304
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:39,440
teams coming together and showing their

1305
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:40,960
personal stuff how many teams would be

1306
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,440
here about a dozen oh at least yeah at

1307
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,359
least a dozen right and is there

1308
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,520
something you all seem to have in common

1309
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:49,760
yeah sometimes we investigate different

1310
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:51,359
than others groups do

1311
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,880
probably at the end we all come together

1312
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,559
and say okay this is what we tried how

1313
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:56,400
about we try what you guys try

1314
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:58,480
that's what i like about the field

1315
00:49:01,270 --> 00:48:59,920
look enjoy the rest of your day here and

1316
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:01,280
thank you for sharing with us thank you

1317
00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:20,390
hi i'm finn and i'm rebecca and we're

1318
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:22,880
the skepticons skeppercons is an irish

1319
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:25,119
podcast by the dublin skeptic society it

1320
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:26,800
takes a conversational reverent look at

1321
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,480
science news and skeptical topics from

1322
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:30,480
an irish perspective you can find us at

1323
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:54,950
thank you for listening to the skeptic

1324
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:56,960
zone all that music still going well

1325
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:59,520
it's on a 48 hour loop

1326
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:01,280
i didn't want to mention anything that

1327
00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:02,720
was the big episode may not thank you

1328
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,559
again for being there at the pub and the

1329
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:06,480
paranormal convention the paranormal and

1330
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,480
spiritual expo if

1331
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:10,240
i'm i'm just going adam west now if

1332
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:12,240
there's a place where paranormal is

1333
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:13,520
called if there's a place where the

1334
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:15,040
skeptics together

1335
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:15,839
i

1336
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:20,319
was even more spooky than your spooky

1337
00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:22,880
action at a distance may not no that

1338
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:23,839
that

1339
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:25,760
he can't help himself now you're going

1340
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:27,920
to be uh one of the people on hand a

1341
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:29,839
reporter at the uh can becoming

1342
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:31,200
convention and that's right and if

1343
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,640
you're coming along you're thinking of

1344
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:34,319
coming along you know someone is coming

1345
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:36,079
along or you're not going at all you

1346
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:37,920
should come and visit me because uh if

1347
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:40,559
you see me come up to me uh hang on

1348
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:42,079
how would our prime minister say shirt

1349
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,319
front me as our prime minister

1350
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,400
that's the word and go hey

1351
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:48,559
i think you're crap

1352
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:51,359
or say i once enjoyed something you did

1353
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,559
40 years ago

1354
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:54,000
yeah that's the kind of thing i want to

1355
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,800
hear or if they can bring you a food

1356
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:58,160
voucher you'd be appreciative for that

1357
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,480
that kind of stuff and and remind me to

1358
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:02,480
tell you the story when i first met iran

1359
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:05,839
sugev in the toilets at the masonic club

1360
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:07,760
in sydney and i was vomiting but that's

1361
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,000
all i can say right now

1362
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,870
tales of the unexpected may not that's

1363
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,720
right i i don't even know if iran would

1364
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:18,480
remember that because you know i'm sure

1365
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,160
he will too special i'm sure he will

1366
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:23,920
well okay well thanks thanks for having

1367
00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:26,240
me over to your interesting uh sydney

1368
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,400
cave yeah

1369
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,480
oh is that somebody at the door

1370
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,880
no i'm gonna get there's a ringtone i

1371
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:34,880
think you should i think you should

1372
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:37,520
cherry to the gods question mark oh it's

1373
00:51:39,790 --> 00:51:38,880
all there look thank you for listening

1374
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,800
if you want to pay a visit to

1375
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,680
maynard.com.u that would be very nice

1376
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:42,880
and thank you and leave some comments

1377
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:44,559
for me if i'm doing the wrong thing let

1378
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:45,839
me know because everyone should know if

1379
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:47,599
they're doing the wrong thing i agree

1380
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:48,559
everyone should know if they're doing

1381
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:49,760
the wrong thing i don't think i'm doing

1382
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:51,599
the wrong thing visiting you may not but

1383
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,960
until next week this is richard and

1384
00:52:07,750 --> 00:51:54,720
maynard from maynard's

1385
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:09,430
you've been listening to the skeptic

1386
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:10,960
zone